i must say i am impressed that you can pick that thing up, i have worked in conservation quite a bit, there's this term called the extinction vortex, where a population can get below a threshold, and once it gets to that number it can't fully recover. so you told me it gone down to 22 individuals. honestly, i am skeptical that even though they are high now, there's enough diversity for them to sustain. >> the 22 that were captured and bred, are very diverse genetically. so they were specifically paired to breed in such a way that it would create the most diversity, and now they have a program where they actually figure out which population the bird should go to when it is released in order to increase the diversity, because it is a big concern. >> thank you for sharing the stories. lindsey, that was a life inspiring story, and rachelle, now i'm excited. i want to go see a condor, and there's enough of them maybeky see one.